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Offline skny  
#1 Posted : 14 June 2016 06:44:14(UTC)
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Is there any news, leaks, rumors, official information on the next megane RS?

I just cant wait Blush and found myself almost stopping by to put a deposit on an abarth 595 competizione since there is nothing interesting at the renault dealers at the moment - love the 275 but just like new things and some new tech being the touchscreens and all that, the new meg gt is so nice I cant see why do they keep us on wait, I want a new be it 5 doors RS and I dont want the clio, sorry, anything spotted, leaked other than the 350 bhp AWD 4WS nonsense?
Offline AnthonyR  
#2 Posted : 14 June 2016 14:31:32(UTC)
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With any luck introduction Geneva Motorshow next march.
Offline tron2k3  
#3 Posted : 15 June 2016 07:33:48(UTC)
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I was chatting to the salesman when I picked my car up and he said that he'd been to Millbrook to test the GT model which has the rear wheel steering which assists the rotation of the rear making it feel much more rear wheel drive.

He seemed to think that the Megane RS will not be 4wd but will be FWD with RWS.
Offline skny  
#4 Posted : 18 July 2016 06:23:06(UTC)
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Finally the car is out for testing, pictures show big brakes with a 2 piece floating disc, bigger in size than that of the mk3 meg rs, cut out fenders and wide track show there will be some extra width added like in the previous meg with some arch extensions, maybe there will be some pictures of the interior soon showing if its a manual or the edc.

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Offline Jeremy RUK  
#5 Posted : 18 July 2016 07:19:13(UTC)
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It goes on sale in 2018
Offline olliep396  
#6 Posted : 18 July 2016 10:33:50(UTC)
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Offline Marc_250  
#7 Posted : 18 July 2016 10:57:00(UTC)
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The auto car render looks pretty nice.
Offline fastdave  
#8 Posted : 18 July 2016 12:18:59(UTC)
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Yes it does.

But if it does have to have rear doors it would look a lot cleaner if the handles were hidden like the Clio.

Will it have the central exhaust? Looks like they haven't quite made up their mind or haven't got round to designing the new bumper.
Offline skny  
#9 Posted : 19 July 2016 12:56:25(UTC)
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The render is pretty accurate now that we know the car will have wider track and arch extensions, only comes down to the shape of the bumpers and the wing at the back, I already like it looking at how wide it is on the front :) Also if you take out the cut out fenders it shows the car sits a lot lower than a standard gt, the tires would sit behind the wheelarches if the standard ones were kept, nice, looks like a car worth waiting for.
Offline Marc_250  
#10 Posted : 19 July 2016 13:32:17(UTC)
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Guess key unknowns is the gearbox...but sounds like they're hoping to offer both.

And what engine will power it. I hope they get something that is similarly modern/advanced as the Golf GTi/R etc
Offline GrumpyTwig  
#11 Posted : 19 July 2016 16:42:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Go to Quoted Post
Guess key unknowns is the gearbox...but sounds like they're hoping to offer both.

And what engine will power it. I hope they get something that is similarly modern/advanced as the Golf GTi/R etc


It'll be what's in the Alpine, a 1.8 version of the Clio engine.
Offline skny  
#12 Posted : 20 July 2016 14:25:05(UTC)
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I honestly doubt they'll be able to squeeze close to 300 bhp out of the nissan 1.8 turbo, if the rumours on the 2.0 turbo turn out to be true I think they would use the Mercedes 2.0 turbo which is already used in the Infiniti ( part of Renault - Nissan - Daimler engine alliance )

Offline bradders2010  
#13 Posted : 20 July 2016 21:18:17(UTC)
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Offline GrumpyTwig  
#14 Posted : 20 July 2016 22:07:13(UTC)
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I love the "hey pierre, these wheels don't fit in the arches! Better cut the bodywork" look :p
Offline Kirsty172  
#15 Posted : 21 July 2016 08:35:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: skny Go to Quoted Post
I honestly doubt they'll be able to squeeze close to 300 bhp out of the nissan 1.8 turbo, if the rumours on the 2.0 turbo turn out to be true I think they would use the Mercedes 2.0 turbo which is already used in the Infiniti ( part of Renault - Nissan - Daimler engine alliance )



lets hope its not a 1.8. giving away 500 cc to a focus - that's gonna work.

my only hope with this car is that the brakes indicate that it might actually have some promise, and not fall into that abortion of a mess that the clio is.
Offline Marc_250  
#16 Posted : 21 July 2016 10:29:05(UTC)
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1.8 could be sufficient as Merc shows a 2.0 can do 390.

If Renault can give it 300hp and keep the weight same or below mk3 that would do.

Anyone know how the base mk3 and mk4 model weights compare?
Offline skny  
#17 Posted : 21 July 2016 11:41:20(UTC)
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the brakes say a lot dont they, the clio rs caught testing had a non brembo caliper from the start, this looks like a proper setup, the wheels stick far more than the standard megane, the offset of the wheel is high just as in the old megane rs, the caliper sits closely to the wheel, looks like the independent axis is still on the cards, 4WS seems to be on the car as you can see a part connecting two rods in the picture showing the rear of the car. It will be a great car if its available with a manual transmission and the LSD.
Offline Kirsty172  
#18 Posted : 21 July 2016 13:43:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Go to Quoted Post
1.8 could be sufficient as Merc shows a 2.0 can do 390.

If Renault can give it 300hp and keep the weight same or below mk3 that would do.

Anyone know how the base mk3 and mk4 model weights compare?


true enough, but renault havent got the capability or knowledge to get that out of a 1.8, renaults engines have been poor for years. if it was ford and vauxhall, id say yes, they could maybe challenge those power outputs.

i could see a renault 1.8 doing 250 bhp. isn't that what the alpine is meant to put out too? cant recall now...
Offline Marc_250  
#19 Posted : 21 July 2016 14:32:36(UTC)
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Think they said they'd be various versions of the Alpine with 250 to 300. I'm sure Renault can do it, they can get around 900 (including hybrid) out of a 1.6 although perhaps not quite comparable...
Offline Georgeski  
#20 Posted : 21 July 2016 14:50:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kirsty172 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Go to Quoted Post
1.8 could be sufficient as Merc shows a 2.0 can do 390.

If Renault can give it 300hp and keep the weight same or below mk3 that would do.

Anyone know how the base mk3 and mk4 model weights compare?


true enough, but renault havent got the capability or knowledge to get that out of a 1.8, renaults engines have been poor for years. if it was ford and vauxhall, id say yes, they could maybe challenge those power outputs.

i could see a renault 1.8 doing 250 bhp. isn't that what the alpine is meant to put out too? cant recall now...


Bit of a harsh view of Renault - I certainly wouldn't put Vauxhall ahead of anyone in terms of engine technology, or any other metric you would use to judge cars for that matter.
Offline GrumpyTwig  
#21 Posted : 21 July 2016 16:47:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kirsty172 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Go to Quoted Post
1.8 could be sufficient as Merc shows a 2.0 can do 390.

If Renault can give it 300hp and keep the weight same or below mk3 that would do.

Anyone know how the base mk3 and mk4 model weights compare?


true enough, but renault havent got the capability or knowledge to get that out of a 1.8, renaults engines have been poor for years. if it was ford and vauxhall, id say yes, they could maybe challenge those power outputs.

i could see a renault 1.8 doing 250 bhp. isn't that what the alpine is meant to put out too? cant recall now...


Good job it'll be a Nissan engine then eh?
Offline Kirsty172  
#22 Posted : 21 July 2016 17:32:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GrumpyTwig Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Kirsty172 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Go to Quoted Post
1.8 could be sufficient as Merc shows a 2.0 can do 390.

If Renault can give it 300hp and keep the weight same or below mk3 that would do.

Anyone know how the base mk3 and mk4 model weights compare?


true enough, but renault havent got the capability or knowledge to get that out of a 1.8, renaults engines have been poor for years. if it was ford and vauxhall, id say yes, they could maybe challenge those power outputs.

i could see a renault 1.8 doing 250 bhp. isn't that what the alpine is meant to put out too? cant recall now...


Good job it'll be a Nissan engine then eh?


that says it all, doesnt it....?
Offline GrumpyTwig  
#23 Posted : 21 July 2016 19:43:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Kirsty172 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GrumpyTwig Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Kirsty172 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Go to Quoted Post
1.8 could be sufficient as Merc shows a 2.0 can do 390.

If Renault can give it 300hp and keep the weight same or below mk3 that would do.

Anyone know how the base mk3 and mk4 model weights compare?


true enough, but renault havent got the capability or knowledge to get that out of a 1.8, renaults engines have been poor for years. if it was ford and vauxhall, id say yes, they could maybe challenge those power outputs.

i could see a renault 1.8 doing 250 bhp. isn't that what the alpine is meant to put out too? cant recall now...


Good job it'll be a Nissan engine then eh?


that says it all, doesnt it....?


All it says to me is, why would Renault produce a new engine from scratch for a (relatively) mass produced hatchback when they have a unit in their family they can pick out of an existing production and just change some components and add more boost (likely a vast over simplification).

I wonder on what basis you think Renault engines have been bad for years though? The F4r has been around for an absolute age yes and if anything they should be praised for making it work so well for so long. If you read some reviews (like the PH review) reading partially between the lines it shows it has something more modern engines can lack i.e. character.

Also you mention Ford but for their hot models for a number of years they had to borrow Volvo engines and Vauxhall??? I don't know what they've done better than Renault in recent times/ever to warrant such praise.]
The only recent instance I can think of for a 4 pot engine to be praised was the RCZ-R that got 280hp(?) out of a 1.6.... but that's a BMW engine :D


Anyway end of ramble...

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Offline Georgeski  
#24 Posted : 21 July 2016 20:34:54(UTC)
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Grumpytwig I think you would be one of the first people to describe the the F4R engine as having character.

Edited by user 21 July 2016 20:35:26(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline Slam  
#25 Posted : 22 July 2016 01:43:23(UTC)
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I've been driving Renault since I passed my test many moons ago. One thing I have to say about Renault, is the make good engines. Both petrol and diesel. Gearboxes are another matter....but engines are solid, pretty economical and always fun. If you add all the Nissan engine they have at their disposal, I'd say Renault can easily put whatever engine they want in this new megane and will make it work well.

I'd prefer a 2litre engine with a bit more power, then just loose those stupid back doors it's gonna have. Give it bespoke body panels, work on getting all the power down through the front wheels nice and smoothly...and give the option of a manual. Though I'd want to drive both manual and paddle shift before I ordered one.
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