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roystinho		#1 Posted : 17 July 2014 09:59:34(UTC)
Posts: 8,584		Hi folks Decided to start a thread for when posts go off topic but are still great discussions. This way you can carry on discussing a particular topic without it taking the thread totally off it's original aim. Please don't be offended if your post gets moved into here, if anything if someone does move it into here it's because it Is seen as a very good or interesting point but has nothing to do with what the thread is about. I'm particularly thinking in recent times about (all the) M135i rants, Jackal and his awesome Golf R purchase in a 200T thread etc. To be clear, if things get brought up in relation to the thread, so discussing the new Golf R v a 275 Trophy then it wouldn't be moved Edited by moderator 17 July 2014 10:22:04(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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MrVix		#2 Posted : 10 September 2014 11:01:59(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Originally Posted by: The Jackal Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: roystinho Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: roystinho MrVix, the exhaust is a must imo. The uprated steering wheel is nice, and then leather and the command is what I'd go for if it was my car The GF wanted all those things and the Panoramic roof, if she had her way I would have shelled out over 45K which is faintly ridiculous on this type of car I managed to get a 2.5K discount so the black 19s, calipers and exhaust were effectively chucked in for free. Still too much money though for what is effectively a school run hatchback. I would not have considered buying it in a million years but the GF has had a rough time of it recently so I had better do the right thing for once I'll be quite surprised if you don't quite like it. The bang-crackle on upshifts is laughable (in a good way), and though maybe it doesn't have the finesse of a megane, it's devastatingly quick The M135i was also very quick but it was also very boring. You are right though Roystinho I am unfairly judging a car that I have never even been in let alone driven. I think the problem is I am smarting at the cost of the thing, is it really worth 12K more than a 275 trophy, I think not At least it cant be as bad as the BMW.......................................... I hope I've heard nothing but good reports about the Merc I'm sure you have a good car there (well the GF anyway).. Most of the hot hatch reports I have read either have the Golf R as top dog or the 265. Still not convinced on the A45 Jackal but we shall see. Just confirmed the order and we take delivery in early November. The GF is doing cartwheels so I might fill my boots while I have the chance if you know what I mean
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The Jackal		#3 Posted : 10 September 2014 12:46:33(UTC)
Posts: 2,112 Location: Eeee bah gum		Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: The Jackal Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: roystinho Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: roystinho MrVix, the exhaust is a must imo. The uprated steering wheel is nice, and then leather and the command is what I'd go for if it was my car The GF wanted all those things and the Panoramic roof, if she had her way I would have shelled out over 45K which is faintly ridiculous on this type of car I managed to get a 2.5K discount so the black 19s, calipers and exhaust were effectively chucked in for free. Still too much money though for what is effectively a school run hatchback. I would not have considered buying it in a million years but the GF has had a rough time of it recently so I had better do the right thing for once I'll be quite surprised if you don't quite like it. The bang-crackle on upshifts is laughable (in a good way), and though maybe it doesn't have the finesse of a megane, it's devastatingly quick The M135i was also very quick but it was also very boring. You are right though Roystinho I am unfairly judging a car that I have never even been in let alone driven. I think the problem is I am smarting at the cost of the thing, is it really worth 12K more than a 275 trophy, I think not At least it cant be as bad as the BMW.......................................... I hope I've heard nothing but good reports about the Merc I'm sure you have a good car there (well the GF anyway).. Most of the hot hatch reports I have read either have the Golf R as top dog or the 265. Still not convinced on the A45 Jackal but we shall see. Just confirmed the order and we take delivery in early November. The GF is doing cartwheels so I might fill my boots while I have the chance if you know what I mean Yeah, I know what you mean..
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Teg		#4 Posted : 10 September 2014 13:22:34(UTC)
Posts: 1,154		A bit harsh to say the M135i is a bad car. Or in other words, it isn't a bad car. It just sounds like it didn't meet your expectations. I was tempted by the A45. Like you, I couldn't get over the price of the thing. If I am spending that sort of money, the car has to be a keeper or a really special car.
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The Jackal		#5 Posted : 12 September 2014 16:46:44(UTC)
Posts: 2,112 Location: Eeee bah gum		Originally Posted by: TeaJay Originally Posted by: Kirsty172 Originally Posted by: SarGara Originally Posted by: TeaJay Does it? From new? or the older R model? I have a quote on a 280 for £390 a month for 3 years PCP, 12000 miles http://www.nationalvehic...I-R-Personal-Lease/37419 £300.46pcm for the same 12k miles. cheap as chips... Unfortunately they dont take part exchange .. which then opens up a whole heap of other issues :( Are you using the 250 as your asset, no deposit?
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Marc_250		#6 Posted : 12 September 2014 19:49:35(UTC)
Posts: 5,117		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of.
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Georgeski		#7 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:24:06(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down
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MrVix		#8 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:27:38(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zooms past
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Marc_250		#9 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:35:14(UTC)
Posts: 5,117		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down Nope, no matter how far it goes into the distance it will still 'look' sh.. Can understand de-badging a car but to stick a lower badge on your car...I don't get it.
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Georgeski		#10 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:35:31(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zooms past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it.
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The Jackal		#11 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:37:49(UTC)
Posts: 2,112 Location: Eeee bah gum		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zooms past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only one way to find out.... Side by side, Georgeski and Mrvix in their respective motors On your makrs, get set....
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Georgeski		#12 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:41:35(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: The Jackal Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zooms past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only one way to find out.... Side by side, Georgeski and Mrvix in their respective motors On your makrs, get set.... g7reg lives in the same village as me so we may find out soon enough
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MrVix		#13 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:42:18(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zooms past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only about 2 secs to a tonne, I reckon there is the same same gap between the 265 to the M135i as there is from the M135i to the A45. However remember speed alone does not a great car make.
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The Jackal		#14 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:43:10(UTC)
Posts: 2,112 Location: Eeee bah gum		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: The Jackal Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zooms past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only one way to find out.... Side by side, Georgeski and Mrvix in their respective motors On your makrs, get set.... g7reg lives in the same village as me so we may find out soon enough Well get someone to video it Then post it on here..
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MrVix		#15 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:46:53(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Even the M135iX trails the A45 quite substantially on a drag and round the twisties the BMW has no chance. The 265/275 on the other hand imo would bury both.
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Georgeski		#16 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:50:27(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zoomvs past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only about 2 secs to a tonne, I reckon there is the same same gap between the 265 to the M135i as there is from the M135i to the A45. However remember speed alone does not a great car make. Not a chance, remember it is power to weight that counts and 4wd is quite heavy
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MrVix		#17 Posted : 12 September 2014 20:54:46(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zoomvs past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only about 2 secs to a tonne, I reckon there is the same same gap between the 265 to the M135i as there is from the M135i to the A45. However remember speed alone does not a great car make. Not a chance, remember it is power to weight that counts and 4wd is quite heavy Look up the tests/reviews Georgski. The GF has had me looking at every review under the sun in the past 48 hours and the closest the M135i gets in any test is 0.9 sec to a tonne, some have it over 2 secs behind. The A45 is by far the quicker car but as I said speed is not the b all and end all.
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g7egt		#18 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:01:45(UTC)
Posts: 1,622 Location: MK land of excessive tyre wear		I'm up for a drag race, my car was built today
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MrVix		#19 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:03:45(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Originally Posted by: g7egt I'm up for a drag race, my car was built today Go for it G7egt, don't let 'team AMG' down Remember to run it in first though
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Georgeski		#20 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:05:50(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Marc_250 Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: Penn Originally Posted by: Wraith1uk Just don't stand out enough. That's the appeal, for me at least. Would be even better without the quad pipes Agree, that's why it appeals to me too - it's why my car was ordered debadged from the factory Put a 114d badge on the back :P I am aware of someone who has. Well the M135i will have no issue pulling that 'look' of. Until they put their foot down And the A45 Zoomvs past Straight line race, I don't reckon there would be much in it. Only about 2 secs to a tonne, I reckon there is the same same gap between the 265 to the M135i as there is from the M135i to the A45. However remember speed alone does not a great car make. Not a chance, remember it is power to weight that counts and 4wd is quite heavy Look up the tests/reviews Georgski. The GF has had me looking at every review under the sun in the past 48 hours and the closest the M135i gets in any test is 0.9 sec to a tonne, some have it over 2 secs behind. The A45 is by far the quicker car but as I said speed is not the b all and end all. I've seen them too, some have them as near as damn it level pegging, others don't I.e the start makes a huge difference. After a tonne is where there is a real difference, the a45 runs out of puff and the difference in displacement comes into play, by 150mph there is a 4 second difference. Anyway, both great cars, over twisting road the a45 would leave the Beamer for dead, unless it blew its turbo......
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g7egt		#21 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:06:04(UTC)
Posts: 1,622 Location: MK land of excessive tyre wear		To Wales and back, still part of the Union
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Georgeski		#22 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:06:40(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: g7egt I'm up for a drag race, my car was built today It's up to 155mph right though?
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g7egt		#23 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:09:51(UTC)
Posts: 1,622 Location: MK land of excessive tyre wear		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: g7egt I'm up for a drag race, my car was built today It's up to 155mph right though? Flipping heck best we go to Germany for that Edited by user 12 September 2014 21:11:27(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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MrVix		#24 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:09:59(UTC)
Posts: 4,183 Location: Obsequious Henchman from the Renaultsport Forum.		Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: g7egt I'm up for a drag race, my car was built today It's up to 155mph right though? I would be interested to see these figures Georgski as the A45 has a superior Power to weight ratio and will accordingly pull even further away from a ton onwards.
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Georgeski		#25 Posted : 12 September 2014 21:17:55(UTC)
Posts: 4,556		Originally Posted by: MrVix Originally Posted by: Georgeski Originally Posted by: g7egt I'm up for a drag race, my car was built today It's up to 155mph right though? I would be interested to see these figures Georgski as the A45 has a superior Power to weight ratio and will accordingly pull even further away from a ton onwards. There are a number of videos on YouTube which show after 100 it comparatively runs out of puff . This is just one I found quickly:
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