Originally Posted by: MrRS 
Originally Posted by: NickRS I don't think you have any data on the delta between the 2 versions so quite a moot point. The expensive options will only lower the track time by mere tenths IMO. Remember timing is not allowed on track days, they are not competitive events. Remember there is only 1 available in the UK anyway, which is probably sold out.
The car is essentially the same irrespective of specs, one might be a few tenths quicker but that's only with a very good track driver who does track days and is therefore in this market.
The £50k base car is 99% of the ones with the bling options. I reckon you wouldn't distinguish them from behind the wheel. The braking distance is the same obviously.
The Trophy R in its base version remains without competition as taking the options is not compulsory.
The base car comes with Ohlins and not making the most of their range of adjustment is a surd when it leads to irrelevant criticism.
Laps times suddenly not important then? Interesting.
You have a punt though on the lap delta for the cheaper Mégane R and it’s suddenly only down to ‘tenths’ and it’s a 99% car. Renault went for the ram air and the big unsprung mass saving with the wheels and ceramics brakes for a reason, significant lap delta.
But as lap times are really not important now, save £20k, and based on your % theory just go for a 98% Type R as there’s no timing on track days is there 😀
Buying a track car is a different ball game and a £50-£72k budget offers a world of opportunity.
I know you struggle with reading comprehension but where did I say lap times were not important ? I said timing is not allowed on track days, but surely you know that. Or perhaps you don't, as you don't do track days (nothing wrong with that).
I know you haven't got a very good memory either so remember, doing 100 miles to a track day or 300 miles to the Ring or Spa simply isn't realistic in an Elise/Exige/Caterham. But you wouldn't really know that, because you've never done it. Different people like different things and different cars have different compromises : can you comprehend that at least ?
You're talking about a subject that you don't understand as you don't do track days so your views are inherently irrelevant, in addition to your systematic anti-RS bias.
Surely you know this is a RS forum so why do you post anything at all if everything you're going to say is negative ? I appreciate you won't respond to that though.
You need to share your views on a Lotus forum and stop polluting this place with your prejudice - can you please do that ?
Originally Posted by: MrRS
but constantly trying to make out there aren’t other viable options for track days where’re the majority of track cars are modified, not showroom fresh buys, many trailered in and mostly not OEM spec is becoming tedious.
You're calling me tedious ?
I never said there aren't other viable options for track days, that's a total fabrication of yours. You don't get it, do you ? The appeal and value of the Trophy R is that for £50k you don't need to trailer it, you don't need to modify it, you don't need to change the OEM spec and you can comfortably fit two 6 footers. And you even get a 3-year warranty
including track use (try that with a CTR). The car shines by it's utter versatility, which is the opposite to a narrow criteria of suitability. Comparing used to new is equally silly.
Do you comprehend that some might want exactly that for their track days, hence their value for money ?
And that no other new car at £50k can offer that. You can't name one. Still.
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