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Offline f.a.t  
#101 Posted : 19 June 2019 14:54:16(UTC)
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Have just seen the Hatchback and Estate ST, nice exhausts but the car is Anonymous.
Offline Colm_ire  
#102 Posted : 25 June 2019 16:37:58(UTC)
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I like the looks in that pic in white. Of course looks are subjective.
The performance certainty isn't anonymous, 280hp and 420nm, anti lag, proper mechanical LSD, adaptive dampers, fantastic.
Rich times for petrol hot hatch enthusiasts, the next batch of new model hot hatches in approx 7 years time might not be as exciting for my tastes
Offline Colm_ire  
#103 Posted : 02 September 2019 19:00:22(UTC)
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Interesting to see the new Focus ST go around a slightly damp Llandow circuit at the hands of a journalist, Matt Prior, faster than either an ex racing driver could get the Megane R.S around the same circuit in better weather conditions on Lovecars, and faster than Tiff Needell could manage in the Megane also. And then pop it in Normal when stuck in traffic on the way home from the circuit and enjoy proper ride quality, unlike the Renault.

So much for all the Renault fan boys on here calling the ST a 'warm' hatch before it was released, faster to 100km/h, faster through the gears, and faster around a lap too 😂😂 if the Ford is warm, the poor Renault must be lukewarm

The Megane R.S didn't even score on this weeks Autocar magazine group test when it went up against the ST, Type R etc. Oh dear, it's a thumbs down for Renault then

Offline CraigI  
#104 Posted : 02 September 2019 19:26:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Colm_ire Go to Quoted Post
Interesting to see the new Focus ST go around a slightly damp Llandow circuit at the hands of a journalist, Matt Prior, faster than either an ex racing driver could get the Megane R.S around the same circuit in better weather conditions on Lovecars, and faster than Tiff Needell could manage in the Megane also. And then pop it in Normal when stuck in traffic on the way home from the circuit and enjoy proper ride quality, unlike the Renault.

So much for all the Renault fan boys on here calling the ST a 'warm' hatch before it was released, faster to 100km/h, faster through the gears, and faster around a lap too 😂😂 if the Ford is warm, the poor Renault must be lukewarm

The Megane R.S didn't even score on this weeks Autocar magazine group test when it went up against the ST, Type R etc. Oh dear, it's a thumbs down for Renault then



Have you ordered a ST?
Did you get a good deal?
Offline MrRS  
#105 Posted : 05 September 2019 09:51:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Colm_ire Go to Quoted Post
Interesting to see the new Focus ST go around a slightly damp Llandow circuit at the hands of a journalist, Matt Prior, faster than either an ex racing driver could get the Megane R.S around the same circuit in better weather conditions on Lovecars, and faster than Tiff Needell could manage in the Megane also. And then pop it in Normal when stuck in traffic on the way home from the circuit and enjoy proper ride quality, unlike the Renault.

So much for all the Renault fan boys on here calling the ST a 'warm' hatch before it was released, faster to 100km/h, faster through the gears, and faster around a lap too 😂😂 if the Ford is warm, the poor Renault must be lukewarm

The Megane R.S didn't even score on this weeks Autocar magazine group test when it went up against the ST, Type R etc. Oh dear, it's a thumbs down for Renault then



The Focus did very well with a good lap time but was still beaten by the Type R in that test:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNZG3NvB5_0

If ride quality and adjustability with adaptive damping is the priority then the current Megane is not for you. I don’t totally right off the Megane 280/300 as it does some good stuff but the Trophy is constantly nailed by the Type R and Pistonheads summed it up well here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llD6GdsV18o

It’s a gap Renault could close and even get the hot hatch crown back with a bit more effort and maybe the 2020 Megane revisions will be more than just cosmetic and we get some more tasty stuff like Öhlins, lightweight kit, a bit more power etc.
Offline CraigI  
#106 Posted : 05 September 2019 22:00:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MrRS Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Colm_ire Go to Quoted Post
Interesting to see the new Focus ST go around a slightly damp Llandow circuit at the hands of a journalist, Matt Prior, faster than either an ex racing driver could get the Megane R.S around the same circuit in better weather conditions on Lovecars, and faster than Tiff Needell could manage in the Megane also. And then pop it in Normal when stuck in traffic on the way home from the circuit and enjoy proper ride quality, unlike the Renault.

So much for all the Renault fan boys on here calling the ST a 'warm' hatch before it was released, faster to 100km/h, faster through the gears, and faster around a lap too 😂😂 if the Ford is warm, the poor Renault must be lukewarm

The Megane R.S didn't even score on this weeks Autocar magazine group test when it went up against the ST, Type R etc. Oh dear, it's a thumbs down for Renault then



The Focus did very well with a good lap time but was still beaten by the Type R in that test:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNZG3NvB5_0

If ride quality and adjustability with adaptive damping is the priority then the current Megane is not for you. I don’t totally right off the Megane 280/300 as it does some good stuff but the Trophy is constantly nailed by the Type R and Pistonheads summed it up well here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llD6GdsV18o

It’s a gap Renault could close and even get the hot hatch crown back with a bit more effort and maybe the 2020 Megane revisions will be more than just cosmetic and we get some more tasty stuff like Öhlins, lightweight kit, a bit more power etc.


Have you driven a new Megane yet?
Offline sunnylunn  
#107 Posted : 06 September 2019 09:53:56(UTC)
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Location: Renault owner &#128512;

Only via google
Offline MrRS  
#108 Posted : 06 September 2019 10:56:56(UTC)
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Driven a 280 Cup.
Offline foxspeed  
#109 Posted : 06 September 2019 15:20:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sunnylunn Go to Quoted Post
Only via google


LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL brilliant!
Offline foxspeed  
#110 Posted : 06 September 2019 15:22:22(UTC)
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Location: retour dans la bulle

Originally Posted by: Colm_ire Go to Quoted Post
Interesting to see the new Focus ST go around a slightly damp Llandow circuit at the hands of a journalist, Matt Prior, faster than either an ex racing driver could get the Megane R.S around the same circuit in better weather conditions on Lovecars, and faster than Tiff Needell could manage in the Megane also. And then pop it in Normal when stuck in traffic on the way home from the circuit and enjoy proper ride quality, unlike the Renault.

So much for all the Renault fan boys on here calling the ST a 'warm' hatch before it was released, faster to 100km/h, faster through the gears, and faster around a lap too 😂😂 if the Ford is warm, the poor Renault must be lukewarm

The Megane R.S didn't even score on this weeks Autocar magazine group test when it went up against the ST, Type R etc. Oh dear, it's a thumbs down for Renault then



fantastic wonderful!

now jog on with your ford Clown
Offline MrRS  
#111 Posted : 28 September 2019 08:05:50(UTC)
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A group hot hatch road test and a good result for the Ford. Plus the Hyundai always seems to be a great drive.

https://www.pistonheads....ne-trophy-vs-i30-n/41029
Offline The Revenant  
#112 Posted : 15 January 2020 11:24:05(UTC)
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Hello everyone, The Clang here. Apparently my account doesn't exist anymore (or something) so I've signed up again to post in this thread.

I saw the thread kind of by accident and I thought it might be useful for one or two of you to hear the views of the new ST from an owner's perspective, in case you were still on the fence about trying one.

First off, 'warm hatch'? I guess the old annecdote about it being better to only appear ignorant rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt applies to that one.

Reliability and customer service. Well, it's early days with this car specifically, and bear in mind this model is totally new, not just a facelift. So if you think you know anything about it based on previous models alone, you don't. I'm on my fifth ST since owning a Clio 200 (which I got rid of after needing its SECOND new gearbox in 20k and Renault not wanting to know about it). Not one single issue with the Focuses (Foci?) and Ford can't seem to do enough for me. Depends on the dealer I guess, as with all marques.

Economy. Well, it's thirsty for sure. If fuel economy is your priority then don't buy a petrol hot hatch.

Interior. Think more German than Fords of old (which have been pretty horrific to be fair). Light years ahead of Renault now, in my opinion. The new ST is a huge improvement over the last one in terms of comfort, build quality and toys. I liked the last one, and the one before that, but this model moves the game on significantly. Previously you had the ST1, 2 and 3, with loads of factory options which gave you a mind boggling array of possible configs. Now it's just the ST and it's pretty well equipped as standard. The only other option I've gone for (besides the Perfomance Pack) is the heads-up display, and it's excellent.

Performance. Again early days, however the extra shove from having 2.3l and a bucket load more torque is really obvious. It sounds absolutely amazing too, and not just because some of the sound is synthetic, for the first time since the MK2 the exhaust actually makes a noise, and it's a nice one. Pops and bangs in Sport and Track modes, if that's your thing. 280ps or thereabouts, anti-lag, a real LSD, adaptive damping, these are a few clues about Ford's intent here! Obviously by now the internet is awash with 'real world' comparisons and review videos, so you know how fast it is compared to other similar cars.

The diff. It's a proper diff, only electronically controlled instead of purely mechanical. You can definitely notice it even in spirited road driving. The outgoing MK3.5 only did torque vectoring, which I think is total crap on any car.

Performance Pack. Order it. The end. OK, so I'm not remotely interested in using launch control. I haven't even tried it yet and I may not ever. IMO this is a pointless feature of any car. However having the different driving modes is quite a big part of making this car what a hot hatch should be i.e. all things to all men\women\unsure.

What I don't like. Not much, however there are a couple of things. You cannot set an individual driving mode, as in you can't tailor one to your own liking. Most of the time I drive in Normal because the commute is just more comfortable that way, however I'd like the throttle response of Sport or Track with the damping of the Normal setting. Given that the capability is there already I think this is a real shame. Also I miss my sunglasses holder!!

In summary, if you're the kind of person who makes their buying decisions based on a spec sheet above all else then go straight to Honda and have a lovely time. However, if you're open minded enough to try one of these you might just enjoy it.

Edited by user 15 January 2020 12:15:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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