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Offline TheJesus  
#1 Posted : 22 August 2011 10:43:52(UTC)
Jon


Posts: 630

We went to WSR on Sunday and the show sadly gets worse each year as classless yobs look to get what they can for a free day out and care nothing for the show itself.

As some will know we are HUGE Renault fans, in particular the Clio Williams, so it was absolutely soul destroying to see it left out in the open for idiots with no care or clue fondle and ruin it. As you will have probably noticed, the car is now scuffed and scratched because it was at the mercy of the beer swilling general puplic who I watched first hand brushing past and using it as a cut through, as well as leaning over it with bags and coats/tops trailing over the once immaculate bodywork.

I find this really upsetting as the car that is the original Williams deserves better and should never have been put in a position where it could be damaged.

I would seriously like to buy the car as I feel it deserves someone who will cherish and look after it the way it deserves. This is a serious offer as we're absolutely devastated it was left unattended and is now covered in scuffs and scratches. Hopefully the original bodywork can remain so without the need for paint, but again, I'm absolutely serious, the car would be maintained regarless of cost in our care.

Jeremy, if you read this you saw our other one which is in better condition than 0001, we would make sure nothing like this happened to it.
Offline fastdave  
#2 Posted : 22 August 2011 11:16:22(UTC)
fastdave


Posts: 1,324
Location: Marchwood

Really surprised this was allowed to happen but I don't think RUK will give up No. 0001 for anything.


Will be interested to hear if the Collectors area was better this year after its change of venue.

Offline Jeremy RUK  
#3 Posted : 22 August 2011 11:17:48(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

Hi Jon - thanks for your thoughts.

I cherish our all of our heritage cars and care very much about their condition and use. We spend a considerable amount of money storing and maintaining these particular cars with the best specialist storage company in the country. They have specific transport and are stored in dehumidified chambers. They have a set maintenance programme and are regularly detailed by another specialist.

There is always a risk with any car on display that it could be damaged in some way, even if it was bird dropping or someone brishing past it. Our heritage cars are always going to be in the elements during the year, they're not going to be hidden in a museum.

For me, the critical part is what we do post-event. I can assure you that it will be properly looked after

Jeremy

Offline TheJesus  
#4 Posted : 22 August 2011 11:21:53(UTC)
Jon


Posts: 630

It was sold to a private collector at one point who I believe gave it back?
Either way, this would not have happened in our care after ours got a scuff last year... the only time we left it all day too. We wont bring ours to WSR again though, any shows it goes to it will be fenced off, as its heart breaking seeing it damaged after spending so much time and money. If we had 0001 it would also be put back on original Pilot HX tyres too!

Jeremy, thanks for the reply, we were just hugely disappointed seeing it manhandled, the last thing that car should need is paint. As far as the Williams goes its the bible so please please fence it off next time. These cars are getting rarer, its hard enough getting parts for them.

There is also a scratch on the drivers real alloy which we saw at FCS, make sure they sort that too please :)

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Offline Jeremy RUK  
#5 Posted : 22 August 2011 13:01:51(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

Jon wrote:
It was sold to a private collector at one point who I believe gave it back?
Either way, this would not have happened in our care after ours got a scuff last year... the only time we left it all day too. We wont bring ours to WSR again though, any shows it goes to it will be fenced off, as its heart breaking seeing it damaged after spending so much time and money. If we had 0001 it would also be put back on original Pilot HX tyres too!

Jeremy, thanks for the reply, we were just hugely disappointed seeing it manhandled, the last thing that car should need is paint. As far as the Williams goes its the bible so please please fence it off next time. These cars are getting rarer, its hard enough getting parts for them.

There is also a scratch on the drivers real alloy which we saw at FCS, make sure they sort that too please :)

Sir Frank offered for sale by auction a number of F1 cars together with 001. Prior to the auction, a private collector negotiated to buy the complete portfolio. He was only after the F1 cars so we negotiasted with him and bought 001 from him.

The Pirelli P4000 tyres that it is on today are the orginal tyres that it had when it was given to Sir Frank. Clearly it was built before the final definition of the specification for the customer cars. As these are very old, they do need replacing.

Offline PAOLO3  
#6 Posted : 22 August 2011 13:46:28(UTC)
Paolo3


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This year the collectors area was away from the mass exodus and storming in of people- howevr, unless you stand there all day watching your car, it was just as possible this year, as in past years for a person with a pram or some kids, to damage or scuff the owners cars....in all honesty, this could happen any time of the day, anywhere in a car park.

The thing with our cars in the collectors area is we put them there to be seen...mine got so much attention and at one point it made me cringe to see kids wiping their hands on my car but I personally also got a huge amount of satisfaction seeing people admire it and want to be photographed with it even (!!?)- I suppose some 'fencing' wouldve been good to keep peeps back in all honesty....a sort of roped off area....

I preferred the location this year- however the cars were no safer than any other year....and the 'parking arrangements' were just almost non-existent.  Our and RAOC cars I thought could have been presented ina better way- after all, this is one of the pinnacles of the calendar in terms of a Renault event.

I too was somewhat shocked to see the Renault UK cars positioned as they were...someone has their work cut out now cleaning them-

There was lack of organisation in terms of parking I thought in all honesty....a huge tarmac area, only half used and the RUK cars positioned where everyone visiting that area descended past with as said, bags, pushchairs and all sorts.  Owners cars then pushed away to a grass edge....I suppose we could've come up with a parking arrangement of our own but I dont think anyone wanted to uipset the RAOC peeps.

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Offline TheJesus  
#7 Posted : 22 August 2011 14:45:23(UTC)
Jon


Posts: 630

Well hopefully you have some HX's in some secret location Jeremy... if you do we will take 2 sets off your hands! Be nice for it to have some decent rubber for any road tests it may find itself in too, those Pirelli ditch finders wont do the chassis any justice!

Paolo, the RAOC collectors area was bad last year, so much so we came in our run about and put it in the general public car park... safer there to be honest. Stephen Dell has his work cut out for next year.
Offline daveking  
#8 Posted : 22 August 2011 17:17:28(UTC)
daveking


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I thought this year the parking from RAOC was a lot better than last year. There was room to spread out to give pushchairs, wheelchairs and sticky fingered little brats more room to pass.

My wife took her Wind and we took the option of leaving the roof open. OK it will need another polish buit there was no damage - not like the car reversing into it in the pub car park then sodding off!!

Reading the comments above it seems that either the cars need to be roped off so people cant get near them or preferably take the same option as now and let people get close to see and feel the cars we all love. Then take them home and polish them again.

Offline eastlmark  
#9 Posted : 22 August 2011 18:39:29(UTC)
eastlmark


Posts: 450

so, worried about a 15 odd year old Clio owned and looked after the manufacturer who loves to put the car on show but not a mention of the 100+ year old cars parked in the same place which are often a lifetimes work for the owners just to get them there and equaly love to show them off.....

Offline TheJesus  
#10 Posted : 23 August 2011 08:25:35(UTC)
Jon


Posts: 630

I didnt mention the vintage cars as while I like and appreciate them I'm a Williams fan/enthusiast and see the car several times a year at shows it is presented. If you owned one you might understand that as far as they go, 0001 is the bible, so to see it scratched and scuffed was upsetting.

It goes without saying that all cars were prone to damage from the great unwashed, we experienced this last year, which is why we didnt bring it this year. Renault usually rope 0001 off and imo should have known better than to leave the first run car to the mercy of idiots.
Offline Jeremy RUK  
#11 Posted : 23 August 2011 10:46:06(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

The team that cares for the heritage collection has reported to me this morning that it's been cleaned yesterday and is perfect condition
Offline TheJesus  
#12 Posted : 23 August 2011 15:36:03(UTC)
Jon


Posts: 630

Great news Jeremy, glad it could polish out and appreciate the update. I'll be inspecting it with Mr. Northrop next yeah at some point! :P
Offline Jeremy RUK  
#13 Posted : 23 August 2011 20:28:14(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

Jon wrote:
Great news Jeremy, glad it could polish out and appreciate the update. I'll be inspecting it with Mr. Northrop next yeah at some point! :P

That's if I let you anywhere near it Wink

Offline northy  
#14 Posted : 23 August 2011 20:45:28(UTC)
northy


Posts: 94

I am pleased that Renault are proud to show off their collection of 0001's to the public. I had never seen the williams before hand and probally still would not have done to this day. I know it is well looked after.

Maybe for next year you could organise a booth (like the roadshow cars had) or display directly in front of your PR trailer ???

I was pleased to see a increase in members cars this year - partically the old timers. Were the display numbers up on previous years ?


Good to briefly say hello Sunday Smile

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Offline Jeremy RUK  
#15 Posted : 23 August 2011 21:12:30(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

The visitor numbers were 120,000, similar to last year
Offline Jeremy RUK  
#16 Posted : 23 August 2011 21:12:58(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

More collector's cars I think
Offline spidaman877  
#17 Posted : 24 August 2011 07:44:59(UTC)
spidaman877


Posts: 2,152

Jeremy RUK wrote:
More collector's cars I think

225 Mr D remarked yesterday

Offline BahnStormer  
#18 Posted : 24 August 2011 10:26:11(UTC)
BahnStormer


Posts: 263

Jeremy, Sorry I didn't catch up with you. I saw you talking with customers and thought best to leave you to it. This was my first time attending and I left my 26.R in the collectors area. Had to work most of the day but overall I thoroughly enjoyed it. I did however find it strange driving through Silverstone village at 9am with extra temporary street cameras and people drinking so early in the morning. Not something Ive witnessed at any of the events I have covered before. 

Nonetheless it was nice for the car to receive so much attention - I was trying to leave it for over 2 hours - and it looked like a great turnout. Thanks again, 

Kevin 
Offline Lora-x  
#19 Posted : 24 August 2011 20:52:25(UTC)
Lora


Posts: 2,351

I do think the collectors area was in a far better place this year than previous, less people wandering through cars as a cut through and trying to open car doors and such.

There is always the risk of putting your car on display that things like this will happen, it is a real shame, and something I really hate. When i'm round my car I watch it like a hawk, but i'm not going to spend my whole day at the show staying within 10 metres of it....like one bloke parked just down from me, that is a tad much imo, but each to there own at the end of the day.

I think it would be a good idea to have some kind of display signs about that say "do not touch the cars" or words to that effect. I got given a little flyer from someone to display in the car that said "look but please don't touch" - this was brilliant and I am going to keep hold of it for other shows, my bf is even going to copy it so he can have one too.

Anyway all in all a brilliant day, well done to all of those for organising the infield parking and everyone else involved in the whole event. I really enjoy it and it makes a nice change to the other annual car shows I attend.

My only moan would be that none of the parking attendant people had any idea where the collectors parking was, so I ended up being directed all over the houses, through a field-which I was less than impressed with as the path was mega dusty and after spending a whole day cleaning my car was very frustrating, and then had to wait around while they radioed through to others to work out where it was, they didn't even know what it was. Eventually I got directed in through some other entrance, and had to find my own way through as again no one had a clue! But finally I did make it, so happy days Smile

Edited by user 24 August 2011 20:54:02(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline PAOLO3  
#20 Posted : 25 August 2011 14:12:17(UTC)
Paolo3


Posts: 4,196

I did prefer the area- was weary how popular it may be as seemed quiet on the Saturday but Sunday was even busier which was great! Big Smile

I really didn't think my car was so desirable that some wanted pictures taken of it, wanted to sit in it, pictures taken with it...quite amazed. I think that to those that did like it, the black/white combo and the yellow accent interior is a winner!  I even had a family at the campsite ask if it was mine and the one they had seen earlier that day as their dad loved it! Cool

Makes me a really proud owner....Approve

I think those that wanna have them roped off could do- be more attractive to make the overall display a little more 'dynamic' too...make the arrangements of the cars interesting and use some stands or things...Question

I like ot clean mine to show it off so would be happy to put it as part of a display of whatever the idea is.

Edited by user 25 August 2011 14:16:44(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline Mentalpen  
#21 Posted : 25 August 2011 15:08:41(UTC)
Mentalpen


Posts: 6,646

this is the reason we no longer go.

i know why renault do it and i know they have no control over alcohol etc but we'd rather pay to go see btcc at croft.
Offline Jeremy RUK  
#22 Posted : 31 August 2011 19:06:10(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

Here's the collection all tucked away safely again

Offline Ollie133CUP  
#23 Posted : 31 August 2011 19:19:52(UTC)
Ollie133CUP


Posts: 761

Now there is only one word for this .... 'WOW'.


Offline Jeremy RUK  
#24 Posted : 31 August 2011 19:21:55(UTC)
Jeremy


Posts: 7,618

Just wanted to make sure that no one thought we didn't care for our cars!
Offline Late boy  
#25 Posted : 31 August 2011 22:27:48(UTC)
Williams


Posts: 175
Location: v6Clio.net

Looks great Jeremy.. Way, way better than I would have imagined! :) Hat off to you Sir!
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