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User is suspended until 15/11/2018 20:23:34(UTC) bobbyboy  
#1 Posted : 04 November 2018 20:16:58(UTC)
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just been wondering what with renault stopping orders for the 280, all the unscrupulous dealers selling off their demo cars, these dealers will not have a car to show to a customer until renault release the next phase of 280's. will all these demo-cars on sale now be legal? because if so- then why have renault mothballed them, and also will they need major surgery at the renault garage??
Offline RED21  
#2 Posted : 04 November 2018 20:47:18(UTC)
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What make you think the Demo cars are going to be illegal?
The first run of the Megane IV RS were NEDC compliant and were built and registrated before the WLTP requirement date.
As for dealerships selling demo cars, I believe that once a car passes X number of days it may be available for sale if permitted by the manufacturer. If there is a delay or lack of availability of a model it can be requested that the current demo is kept on fleet to meet the appropriate demo requirements but may be sold subject to dealership policy.
Offline eccentric1  
#3 Posted : 04 November 2018 21:19:24(UTC)
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I agree with the Red one.
Offline Marc_250  
#4 Posted : 04 November 2018 22:37:45(UTC)
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Of course they are by the same token the millions of used cars that don't comply with the latest regs are.
Offline CraigI  
#5 Posted : 04 November 2018 23:05:38(UTC)
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Deary me, this place is so melodramatic at times.
User is suspended until 15/11/2018 20:23:34(UTC) bobbyboy  
#6 Posted : 05 November 2018 17:32:26(UTC)
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Still doesn't answer the question though, will it need major surgery? Only Renault will know the answer to that one after the recalls and cancelled orders faults are sorted.
Offline Rolo  
#7 Posted : 05 November 2018 18:07:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bobbyboy Go to Quoted Post
Still doesn't answer the question though, will it need major surgery? Only Renault will know the answer to that one after the recalls and cancelled orders faults are sorted.


There are no faults or recalls!!! All cars already sold are 100% legal ! Since 1st September, no manufacturer, not just Renault, can sell a car until every single variant of that model has been put through the WLTP test. This test measures CO2 & MPG & all car firms have to hit average CO2 targets across their range, this is what has caught all car firms out!! Nothing to do with faults.
Offline Kirsty172  
#8 Posted : 05 November 2018 18:55:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bobbyboy Go to Quoted Post
Still doesn't answer the question though, will it need major surgery? Only Renault will know the answer to that one after the recalls and cancelled orders faults are sorted.



'surgery' definition -

the treatment of injuries or disorders of the body by incision or manipulation, especially with instruments

that'll probably be a 'non' then.
Offline Buffalo Girls  
#9 Posted : 05 November 2018 19:15:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bobbyboy Go to Quoted Post
Still doesn't answer the question though, will it need major surgery? Only Renault will know the answer to that one after the recalls and cancelled orders faults are sorted.


The answer is the cars will be legal
Offline Gerryb92  
#10 Posted : 06 November 2018 10:14:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CraigI Go to Quoted Post
Deary me, this place is so melodramatic at times.


Couldn't agree more. LOL
Offline Treagyjet  
#11 Posted : 06 November 2018 19:23:08(UTC)
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The cars won’t change at all. They just cannot be sold until the newly required emissions and mpg etc figures have been collated for every variation in the range, including some of the factory fit optional extras.
Offline Penn  
#12 Posted : 07 November 2018 20:09:46(UTC)
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The cars might have to change to meet the emissions regs. Suspect that’s what the real delay is.

Edited by user 07 November 2018 20:10:42(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline Tom Goodall (Renault Chester)  
#13 Posted : 10 November 2018 10:15:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RED21 Go to Quoted Post
What make you think the Demo cars are going to be illegal?
The first run of the Megane IV RS were NEDC compliant and were built and registrated before the WLTP requirement date.
As for dealerships selling demo cars, I believe that once a car passes X number of days it may be available for sale if permitted by the manufacturer. If there is a delay or lack of availability of a model it can be requested that the current demo is kept on fleet to meet the appropriate demo requirements but may be sold subject to dealership policy.


100% Correct
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